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what led to my previous post was the fact that one of my FB friends (thank goodness that was all she was), posted an obituary for that young man, saying she was glad she and her family didn't get vaccinations because this was the outcome.
My response, because I am an advocate for vaccines, was it was an inconclusive case, and THAT WAS IT. Which I was right, there was no evidence for or against it. So to base your decision to vaccinate, or to justify your reason for not doing it, based an a bit of inconclusive information is silly.
Very suddenly, four women swooped in, all calling me a radical left winged vaccinator out to destroy life as we know it. They called me ignorant, bloody crazy, and even at one point said changing my profile picture didn't make me look any smarter. …….really? A bunch of dung throwers in a cow pen. They came at me telling me I was a horrible person for saying disliking vaccines was bad, which I didn't say at all. Of course, when they accused me, I offered why I believed vaccinating was good, and then it got ugly.
Me against 4 emotionally charged women, obviously suffering from some illness for which they weren't vaccinated that had compromised brain function…..yes, that was mean. But they just would not leave it alone, even after I explain again my statement was not about vaccinating or not, regardless of my opinion, it was that you can't arrive at a logical conclusion without substatial evidence, for which there was none. I made the mistake of saying we should all go back to birthing babies in caves (as a quip to be funny…) and that was the only thing they could debate about! Probably because that was the only thing they were smart enough to debate about.
Example:
Andrea Tate Sara, just because you have worked in health care doesn't mean anything to me or make you an expert on anything. And the FDA is the problem! Not everyone sees eye to eye. It's OK for me to not agree with you and for you to not agree with me. I guess you could say we agree to disagree.
Sara-Helen Davis All I was trying to say is it was wrong of that woman to publicly blame something with no evidence. Vaccinations have saved countless lives all over the world, but if you look for the negative, you will find it. I don't care if you don't wish to be vaccinated, but I do think it is wrong to support ignorance.
Andrea Tate No one knows their child better than a mother. We don't know all the details but that mother does, and maybe there is plenty of evidence. It would be wrong of us to judge her or proclaim her to be ignorant. There are always two sides to every story.
Sara-Helen Davis Ok, obviously I'm not getting anywhere......but it is kind of a big deal to say something with no REAL evidence in the hopes to affect some "liberate the world from vaccinations" movement. It's tragic what happened, but because she elected not to have an autopsy performed, it will never be conclusive. You must agree with that.
Andrea Tate Sara, I would say I am somewhere in the middle on Vaccines. I have 2 boys who were "immunize by 2 it's up to you" so they are fully immunized, and a daughter who is not immunized. I don't think it is all together a horrible thing. But a person has to do A LOT of thoughtful research on BOTH sides of the coin and then make their best decisions. That's all anyone can really do.
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Sara-Helen Davis .......seriously? You didn't even address the real issue I had originally presented, and then presented again. Oh well, I'm used to it.
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Sara-Helen Davis Uh no, you can't convict without substantial evidence. Mother's intuition is not substantial evidence. And like I said....she decided to not pursue retrieving evidence. So my point remains, you cannot blame the vaccination. Grievence is not a sufficient excuse. Thanks for making me seem like a monster mocking a grieving mother, which was not my intent, though you drove it there. I don't care if you vaccinate or not, but you simply cannot in good conscience agree with a scientific statement that has not been tested. I will not, though you will, and we will leave it at that.
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Andrea Tate Sara you are ignorant. I will leave it at that.
Can you see how she COMPLETELY missed my point? And it kept going, getting worse and worse, and yes, my claws come out and I fight dirty when people attack my character.
Its ok, I'm right, and I know it. And I think not vaccinating your kids should be considered child abuse. But that has nothing to do with what I originally responded to that post.
Like I said, thank goodness I don't know any of them. I feel bad for their families and anyone unfortunate enough to associate with them.
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