What happens when you work with people.......They post this on their wall: "I wanted something a little different with an anchor and had someone make one up for me...its not exactly what I was hoping for but it works."

February 24th, 7:13pm

Hi Kelli! Thanks for the message! I'd love to help you with a design :)I have pre made designs starting at $20 and then my custom designs start at $40, and I take a $30 deposit to start. You can have up to 4 different samples ($10 each after the first) and then as many reworks as you would like ($5 each). Can you give me a little bit more detail about your business and how you want the logo to look?
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If I come up with an example of how I want it to look can you make it? Or do you only have certain things you can use to create it?

I use photoshop to create my designs, and I can't copy other designers work exactly. But if you come up with something, I can probably get pretty close to it

Ok!

Tuesday 4:42pm

Hey hun. Sorry its taken so long to get back to young its been pretty busy here. How much would something like this be?

Not sure why that's upside down.lol

I'm not sure on coloring yet though.

I was thinking shades of teal and brown? Or purple and brown? Also I want the inside of it colored too but really really light(as if you lowered the opacity) so that if I put it over a part of the picture and lowered the opacity of it you can still see the picture behind it but its still colored. Does that make sense?

Yes, depending on the type of editing software you use, that is generally how a watermark works.

I can totally do something like that for you!

Would you like me to send you an invoice and get started?

Yes please. I won't be able to pay it until the end of the week though when we get paid.

Okay I'll just need your email, and then you can send a quick message when you are ready for me to get started

Ormskell@yahoo.com

Thank you!

Wednesday 5:10pm

just out of curiosity, how long does it usually take to get the logo/watermark back after I pay the invoice? I might just transfer money now to pay you so I can have it sooner. It doesn't have to be exactly what I drew up. The 3 main things I want in it are the "Anchored Heart" in cursive and swirly and the "Photography" part in regular print(and maybe with swirls on the g and y?), an anchor with the rope around it or somehow underlining it, and for it to be shades of teal and brown.

that's my current one(but I usually have the words in white on photos). so I want the words similar if possible.

Usually next day or same day deoending on how complicated the design is

ok! I'll pay it now.

I actually am at a photo shoot so I can't send the invoice until around 7, is that okay?

you already sent it to me. $42. Will it be different or is that the correct one?

Oh no thats right! Sorry ive got several clients right now

lol it's ok

23 hours ago

Okay, now I'm home! Give me a quick rundown again of what you want the logo to say?

You want Anchor Heart and the photography below? and do you want me to do a different graphic?

I sent a quick example of an idea I had above.

Do you want it exactly like that I guess is my question

Something similar

Okay I'll get started in just a bit!

I should have a sample ready later tonight or first thing in the morning

It doesn't have to be exactly what I drew up. The 3 main things I want in it are the "Anchored Heart" in cursive and swirly and the "Photography" part in regular print(and maybe with swirls on the g and y?), an anchor with the rope around it or somehow underlining it, and for it to be shades of teal and brown.

Ok. Thank you! In excited to see it!

teal brown, got it!

I'm*

Feel free to put your own spin on it and try what you think looks best. I'm not dead set on any certain design. Just as long as it goes with the name.

Don't worry, I've got some fun ideas

8 hours ago

Okay here is your sample!

The font can be changed if you like

The wording is good but now that i see it I'm not sure i like the brown. Maybe black? Also can you make "photography" a little bigger with the rope going around the words in an oval shape?

And do you have an anchor similar to what I drew? I don't like the curly part.

I like the pointed tips.

Oh that image didn't come through originally, I'm sorry

yes of course

do you want photography in plain text or similar text?

Ohh lol sorry! Here's some logos I found that I liked that might give you a better idea of what I like.

so, do you want it like the one you drew or like these?

I got creative with the shape of the anchor after I made it because of the "heart"

I kind of like the look of that last picture I sent. Can you do something like that but with the anchor tilted inwards towards the words. I was thinking to incorporate the heart you could make the circle part at the top of the anchor in the shape of a heart like the one I drew. And the anchor be a light teal similar to in the second picture.

Sorry I know I'm being kind of picky lol

Sure, I can do that

Thanks! Sorry again for being a pain but one more thing, is it possible for the wording to be a light brown? Maybe that would look better? The wording for Anchored heart was perfect though. Its similar to what I already use. My current logo is white with a red heart. It used to be black like what i sent you but i learned it was harder to see in photos. Its much easier to see in white. So I want it light enough that you can see it with dark backgrounds.

I think that's why I didn't like the wording in dark brown.

Honestly, you are going to want to use either white or black with your watermark, and have the color version as your logo. My policy is that yo hare responsible for use of your design, but I'm always surprised how many clients come back saying they can't see the color on their pictures. So word of advice for you

Much better but can you make that rope and tilt the anchor the opposite way(like have the bottom go inwards)? And I think your right. It will probably have to be white for the photos.

Here to save you from having to keep changing it, why Dont I draw up exactly what I want and you can just make that. I don't want to waste your time and have you keep making different things.

Ohh, I thought you meant tilting inwards like that

Technically I'm supposed to charge for reworks lol

And what rope are you referring to?The one you drew?

If it tilts the way you want, the shape of the rope won't make sense

Well you said you didn't get my original picture, so what you made wasn't what I wanted and paid for anyways. I can draw what I want for you to make but if I have to pay more just forget it. $42 is a lot for something I didn't even like anyways. So I want something I'm actually going to like.

Kelli, calm down. I wasn't saying I was going to, hence the lol... The original image didn't come through, that isn't necessarily my fault. I am wiling to keep working with you, and I'm also making recommendations based on my knowledge of design

Ok. well when I get home later I'll draw something up for you to work on.

Please be honest with me, if you really don't like it, you have to be honest so we can get it to what you do like

Also if I do one in white/black for the watermark and one in color for the logo does that cost more or do I get both?

No, you get both types in png format

Ok cool!

Okay, I Just recreated what you sent me

If you want, we can use the script from my original proof, or this one. And the rope can be changed, but I tried to keep it as close to what you drew as possible. I'm going to work on a rope similar to the other example you sent me, I just need to go feed and take care of my kids lol

That anchor is perfect! But yeah my rope wasn't very good. I did it really fast.lol if you can make the rope go around it like that but use a rope more like your first sample and more rounded and then make the anchor a light turquoise color and maybe make the heart a darker turquoise I think that will be perfect!

Okay, now we are on the same page

Sorry I was making it difficult...should've just stuck with my original plan.lol

It's okay, I understand

5 hours ago

The rope can be black, brown or white

probably brown

a lighter brown though

k

and if you can make the teal more this shade I think we will be good.

just not as neon I guess if that makes sense

yes!!

also the only thing i noticed with that one is there were a few white spots on the rope on the anchor part that wasn't colored in.

that one is perfect! Thank you!

Okay good

What email should I send it to?

ormskell@yahoo.com

Okay, sent!

about an hour ago

Hey Kelli, in all fairness, you may want to mention I designed two other logos for you at my expense, and then copied your design almost exactly. I do like my clients to be satisfied with their finished product, and I hope that you understand how important my business is to me, especially when my children are destroying my house while I am reworking lol. Thanks again for letting me design for you.

I'd hate to be a pain but how much extra would it be to have you change the A in anchored. I've had a few people comment about how its hard to read and looks like it says orchard heart I liked the wording but if its too hard to read I may have you change it and I'll pay a little extra.

Did you happen to read your email?

I've actually been so busy I haven't even had the chance to look at it and use it. I had saved the image you sent me on here and posted it asking what people thought. I'll look now though.

What is it that I'm looking for? It says if its not spelled correctly you'll fix it for free but since it is spelled correctly but hard to read I wasn't sure if I'd have to pay more to change the font since you keep mentioning how you had to make 2.

Kelli, I have 5-6 clients a day and two kids. I have to charge for my time. I did make three designs and didn't charge extra, the reason it would be a new design is because I flatten the design once approved and completed.

Then never mind.

I hope you understand, you wouldn't want people to expect your photography services for free

And I have been very cooperative and patient with every rework. You told me the final design was perfect